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  • M MidwestLimey

    Excuses, excuses ... -0.0039485 per hour for you! :D


    I'm largely language agnostic


    After a while they all bug me :doh:


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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Yeah, on my blog I am going to format it but when I post on CP I have to allow little errors in my comments so people can offer funny critiques.

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    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

      Well it isn't an amount but a direct correlation. If you think you are worth, let's say $50k a year annual salary you should charge $41 an hour for a 6 month contract. In the end it will be about the same on the annual taxes.

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      PIEBALDconsult
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      No, 92, and take the other six months off.

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

        Fulltime USD Per Annum

        Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

        Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

        20000

        16.2990196078431

        18.4722222222222

        25000

        20.3737745098039

        23.0902777777778

        30000

        24.4485294117647

        27.7083333333333

        35000

        28.5232843137255

        32.3263888888889

        40000

        32.5980392156863

        36.9444444444444

        45000

        36.6727941176471

        41.5625

        50000

        40.7475490196078

        46.1805555555556

        55000

        44.8223039215686

        50.7986111111111

        65000

        52.9718137254902

        60.0347222222222

        70000

        57.046568627451

        64.6527777777778

        85000

        69.2708333333333

        78.5069444444444

        90000

        73.3455882352941

        83.125

        95000

        77.4203431372549

        87.7430555555556

        100000

        81.4950980392157

        92.3611111111111

        105000

        85.5698529411765

        96.9791666666667

        110000

        89.6446078431373

        101.597222222222

        115000

        93.719362745098

        106.215277777778

        120000

        97.7941176470588

        110.833333333333

        125000

        101.86887254902

        115.451388888889

        130000

        105.94362745098

        120.069444444444

        135000

        110.018382352941

        124.6875

        140000

        114.093137254902

        129.305555555556

        145000

        118.167892156863

        133.923611111111

        150000

        122.242647058824

        138.541666666667

        155000

        126.317401960784

        143.159722222222

        165000

        134.466911764706

        152.3958333333

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        leppie
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

        Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
        Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
        Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

        :)

        xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
        IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

          Fulltime USD Per Annum

          Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

          Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

          20000

          16.2990196078431

          18.4722222222222

          25000

          20.3737745098039

          23.0902777777778

          30000

          24.4485294117647

          27.7083333333333

          35000

          28.5232843137255

          32.3263888888889

          40000

          32.5980392156863

          36.9444444444444

          45000

          36.6727941176471

          41.5625

          50000

          40.7475490196078

          46.1805555555556

          55000

          44.8223039215686

          50.7986111111111

          65000

          52.9718137254902

          60.0347222222222

          70000

          57.046568627451

          64.6527777777778

          85000

          69.2708333333333

          78.5069444444444

          90000

          73.3455882352941

          83.125

          95000

          77.4203431372549

          87.7430555555556

          100000

          81.4950980392157

          92.3611111111111

          105000

          85.5698529411765

          96.9791666666667

          110000

          89.6446078431373

          101.597222222222

          115000

          93.719362745098

          106.215277777778

          120000

          97.7941176470588

          110.833333333333

          125000

          101.86887254902

          115.451388888889

          130000

          105.94362745098

          120.069444444444

          135000

          110.018382352941

          124.6875

          140000

          114.093137254902

          129.305555555556

          145000

          118.167892156863

          133.923611111111

          150000

          122.242647058824

          138.541666666667

          155000

          126.317401960784

          143.159722222222

          165000

          134.466911764706

          152.3958333333

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          Rob Graham
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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          • L leppie

            Would a simple function be easier? ;P IOW:

            Fulltime USD Per Annum: x
            Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr: x/1226
            Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr: x/1082

            :)

            xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            It would but then people would but I think people like tables. Plus looking at the divisor might incorrectly lead people to believe they only need to work that number of hours per year. When the actual result is only achieved with an effort to work 40 hours per week every week except for two weeks vacation and 10 holidays.

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            • R Rob Graham

              so how did you arrive at the numbers? does this take into account the value of benefits (health ins., 401K contributions, holidays, vacations)? employer share of FICA/Medicare? How did you arrive at the penalty factor for no contract?

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              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              It takes full into account health and benefits and fica medicare. There is some fudge factor based on down time between contracts. Up to %35 of your billable hours could be spent looking for contracts in some cases. Technically this is work, hard work, and needs to be accounted for. I like to think it can take up to 4 weeks to find a 6 month contract so I use, in my personal calculations a fudge factor of 8 weeks per year or 15% of available time as down time. The best way to use the number, let's use $50k again, is to say 41*1600 = 61,500 total expected revenue per year. $50k *.15 = FICA = $7500. Which leaves $4,000 for benefits. Which is a reasonable amount for someone with a $50k a year base salary. (I said reasonable not good) Of course, if you work more than 40 per week or have a better than average turn around on a contract you get the potential to earn profit.

              Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
              Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                Fulltime USD Per Annum

                Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                20000

                16.2990196078431

                18.4722222222222

                25000

                20.3737745098039

                23.0902777777778

                30000

                24.4485294117647

                27.7083333333333

                35000

                28.5232843137255

                32.3263888888889

                40000

                32.5980392156863

                36.9444444444444

                45000

                36.6727941176471

                41.5625

                50000

                40.7475490196078

                46.1805555555556

                55000

                44.8223039215686

                50.7986111111111

                65000

                52.9718137254902

                60.0347222222222

                70000

                57.046568627451

                64.6527777777778

                85000

                69.2708333333333

                78.5069444444444

                90000

                73.3455882352941

                83.125

                95000

                77.4203431372549

                87.7430555555556

                100000

                81.4950980392157

                92.3611111111111

                105000

                85.5698529411765

                96.9791666666667

                110000

                89.6446078431373

                101.597222222222

                115000

                93.719362745098

                106.215277777778

                120000

                97.7941176470588

                110.833333333333

                125000

                101.86887254902

                115.451388888889

                130000

                105.94362745098

                120.069444444444

                135000

                110.018382352941

                124.6875

                140000

                114.093137254902

                129.305555555556

                145000

                118.167892156863

                133.923611111111

                150000

                122.242647058824

                138.541666666667

                155000

                126.317401960784

                143.159722222222

                165000

                134.466911764706

                152.3958333333

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                Member 96
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                Why'd you stop at 180k? :) I'm guessing if I was a consultant my hourly rate would be through the roof. :cool:


                "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  Yeah, on my blog I am going to format it but when I post on CP I have to allow little errors in my comments so people can offer funny critiques.

                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                  Member 96
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  :laugh: Even if there aren't any errors you'll get lot's of little critiques from this anal retentive bunch. :)


                  "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                    I didn't add all those line breaks in the message it just occurs when I did the table?

                    Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                    Bruce Chapman DNN
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

                    Bruce Chapman iFinity.com.au - Websites and Software Development | Do you need a specialist DotNetNuke developer? Plithy remark available in Beta 2

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                    • B Bruce Chapman DNN

                      It's an interesting table. Funnily enough you are within a couple of percent of what I charge / think I should earn if I were to get a job. Now I'd like to see a spreadsheet on how I can convince people that a $20/hr outsourced developer is not comparing apples with apples. Incidentally, do you advertise your rates or just save them up for when people ask?

                      Bruce Chapman iFinity.com.au - Websites and Software Development | Do you need a specialist DotNetNuke developer? Plithy remark available in Beta 2

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      I don't publish them online because there is so much competition online and many people will not call if they see you as too expensive. Its not top secret though, if it's something you are interested in send an email and I will give you the skinny.

                      Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                        Fulltime USD Per Annum

                        Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                        Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                        20000

                        16.2990196078431

                        18.4722222222222

                        25000

                        20.3737745098039

                        23.0902777777778

                        30000

                        24.4485294117647

                        27.7083333333333

                        35000

                        28.5232843137255

                        32.3263888888889

                        40000

                        32.5980392156863

                        36.9444444444444

                        45000

                        36.6727941176471

                        41.5625

                        50000

                        40.7475490196078

                        46.1805555555556

                        55000

                        44.8223039215686

                        50.7986111111111

                        65000

                        52.9718137254902

                        60.0347222222222

                        70000

                        57.046568627451

                        64.6527777777778

                        85000

                        69.2708333333333

                        78.5069444444444

                        90000

                        73.3455882352941

                        83.125

                        95000

                        77.4203431372549

                        87.7430555555556

                        100000

                        81.4950980392157

                        92.3611111111111

                        105000

                        85.5698529411765

                        96.9791666666667

                        110000

                        89.6446078431373

                        101.597222222222

                        115000

                        93.719362745098

                        106.215277777778

                        120000

                        97.7941176470588

                        110.833333333333

                        125000

                        101.86887254902

                        115.451388888889

                        130000

                        105.94362745098

                        120.069444444444

                        135000

                        110.018382352941

                        124.6875

                        140000

                        114.093137254902

                        129.305555555556

                        145000

                        118.167892156863

                        133.923611111111

                        150000

                        122.242647058824

                        138.541666666667

                        155000

                        126.317401960784

                        143.159722222222

                        165000

                        134.466911764706

                        152.3958333333

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                        ftw melvin
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        I'd lose everything after the second decimal place for readability if you are going to post it. Interesting calculation, as a rule of thumb you are saying $1000 ~= 80c an hour. Converting this into English, if Joe Senior Dev earned around £40,000 per year they should only consider resuming contracting, after say six year's permanent frustration, if they were happy you could get £32 per hour consistently. I think you've made my Joe's mind up!

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          I am thinking about putting this on my blog for the aid of the community at large but figured I would post here to see just how of base I really am. The basis for this is the continued series of questions I see asked and get asked which amounts to "What should I charge?". Just look up the annual salary you think you are worth with benefits and then look at the rate you should charge. (The rates include such things as benefits, PTO, Holidays, Marketing, Etc. But DO NOT INCLUDE travel expenses)

                          Fulltime USD Per Annum

                          Consulting Rate (6 month contracts)/hr

                          Consulting Rate (No Contract)/hr

                          20000

                          16.2990196078431

                          18.4722222222222

                          25000

                          20.3737745098039

                          23.0902777777778

                          30000

                          24.4485294117647

                          27.7083333333333

                          35000

                          28.5232843137255

                          32.3263888888889

                          40000

                          32.5980392156863

                          36.9444444444444

                          45000

                          36.6727941176471

                          41.5625

                          50000

                          40.7475490196078

                          46.1805555555556

                          55000

                          44.8223039215686

                          50.7986111111111

                          65000

                          52.9718137254902

                          60.0347222222222

                          70000

                          57.046568627451

                          64.6527777777778

                          85000

                          69.2708333333333

                          78.5069444444444

                          90000

                          73.3455882352941

                          83.125

                          95000

                          77.4203431372549

                          87.7430555555556

                          100000

                          81.4950980392157

                          92.3611111111111

                          105000

                          85.5698529411765

                          96.9791666666667

                          110000

                          89.6446078431373

                          101.597222222222

                          115000

                          93.719362745098

                          106.215277777778

                          120000

                          97.7941176470588

                          110.833333333333

                          125000

                          101.86887254902

                          115.451388888889

                          130000

                          105.94362745098

                          120.069444444444

                          135000

                          110.018382352941

                          124.6875

                          140000

                          114.093137254902

                          129.305555555556

                          145000

                          118.167892156863

                          133.923611111111

                          150000

                          122.242647058824

                          138.541666666667

                          155000

                          126.317401960784

                          143.159722222222

                          165000

                          134.466911764706

                          152.3958333333

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                          ftw melvin
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                            http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/[^]

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                            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                            Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                            • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                              The results of that calculator are no where near my results. I think mine are more realistic.

                              Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                              Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                              ftw melvin
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              I'm sure yours are well researched, the tax conditions in the UK compared to the USA are quite different which could account for the difference. Just wanted to show you an alternative.

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