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  • D Dalek Dave

    There is a point in time when it is not there. There is a point in time when it is. Then there is a another point in time when it ceases. If you wish to talk maths then please continue, but be aware that there are a lot more than three dimensions, and that the temporal and hyperspatial ones can do some odd things. Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult, and what about projections of future positions of known points, a clock is useful there!

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    soap brain
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult

    You're joking, right? V = s4.

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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult

      You're joking, right? V = s4.

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      V = s4? Are you sure? Rotating Hypercube[^], not easy is it? Some information[^]. Want to try again?

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      • D Dalek Dave

        V = s4? Are you sure? Rotating Hypercube[^], not easy is it? Some information[^]. Want to try again?

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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        Are you sure?

        Yes.

        Dalek Dave wrote:

        Want to try again?

        OK. A tesseract is a cube extruded along the w-axis a distance of s. Hence, V = s4.

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        • S soap brain

          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Are you sure?

          Yes.

          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Want to try again?

          OK. A tesseract is a cube extruded along the w-axis a distance of s. Hence, V = s4.

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          You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            Indeed I do, but you may note that I clearly stated "in 3D". By default, Silverlight 3D exists in 4D.

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            He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.

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            • W wout de zeeuw

              Can't draw a point in Silverlight 5 3D. :wtf: Feels like going back in time.

              Wout

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              A serious question: Isn't moving pixel sized triangles quicker with modern GPUs anyway? I assumed it was, still a PITA though.

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              • W wout de zeeuw

                Can't draw a point in Silverlight 5 3D. :wtf: Feels like going back in time.

                Wout

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                Mark_Wallace
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                So you need a point with the circular aspect excluded. i.e. :beer:

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting.

                  You mean its hyper-surface area.

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside.

                  I don't even know what that means. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tesseract+volume[^]

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Time? Or is that just a theory?

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                    Lost User
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                    As a dimension, yes, it is a theory.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                      Your talking bollocks again Dave.

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                      • K Keith Barrow

                        A serious question: Isn't moving pixel sized triangles quicker with modern GPUs anyway? I assumed it was, still a PITA though.

                        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                        -Or-
                        A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                        wout de zeeuw
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                        Maybe, I still have to look into how to draw a pixel sized triangle that remains pixel sized regardless of how much the user zooms in/out. In OpenGL/DirectX 9 this used to be quite easy, but now you have to get into vertex shaders, texture mapping and such just to draw a dot. So instead of just doing a few lines of code and be done with it, now you have to research for a day how to draw a dot.

                        Wout

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                        • K Keith Barrow

                          He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.

                          Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                          -Or-
                          A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                          Khaaaaaaaan!

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