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  • H hairy_hats

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    there are a lot more than three dimensions

    Mathematically, yes...in reality, it remains to be proved.

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    Dalek Dave
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    Time? Or is that just a theory?

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    • D Dalek Dave

      Time? Or is that just a theory?

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      hairy_hats
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      That's one more. You said "a lot more". :)

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      • H hairy_hats

        That's one more. You said "a lot more". :)

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        Dalek Dave
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        String Theory[^] And even Uncertainty is uncertain[^]. It depends on more dimensions than can be explained at the moment.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          String Theory[^] And even Uncertainty is uncertain[^]. It depends on more dimensions than can be explained at the moment.

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          hairy_hats
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          I know of String Theory, and how it has failed to produce a single concrete prediction. Give any mathematical model enough degrees of freedom and you can make it look like anything. I'm not convinced it is the answer.

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          • D Dalek Dave

            There is a point in time when it is not there. There is a point in time when it is. Then there is a another point in time when it ceases. If you wish to talk maths then please continue, but be aware that there are a lot more than three dimensions, and that the temporal and hyperspatial ones can do some odd things. Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult, and what about projections of future positions of known points, a clock is useful there!

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            soap brain
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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult

            You're joking, right? V = s4.

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            • S soap brain

              Dalek Dave wrote:

              Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult

              You're joking, right? V = s4.

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              Dalek Dave
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              V = s4? Are you sure? Rotating Hypercube[^], not easy is it? Some information[^]. Want to try again?

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              • D Dalek Dave

                V = s4? Are you sure? Rotating Hypercube[^], not easy is it? Some information[^]. Want to try again?

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                soap brain
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                Are you sure?

                Yes.

                Dalek Dave wrote:

                Want to try again?

                OK. A tesseract is a cube extruded along the w-axis a distance of s. Hence, V = s4.

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                • S soap brain

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Are you sure?

                  Yes.

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Want to try again?

                  OK. A tesseract is a cube extruded along the w-axis a distance of s. Hence, V = s4.

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Indeed I do, but you may note that I clearly stated "in 3D". By default, Silverlight 3D exists in 4D.

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.

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                    • W wout de zeeuw

                      Can't draw a point in Silverlight 5 3D. :wtf: Feels like going back in time.

                      Wout

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      A serious question: Isn't moving pixel sized triangles quicker with modern GPUs anyway? I assumed it was, still a PITA though.

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                      • W wout de zeeuw

                        Can't draw a point in Silverlight 5 3D. :wtf: Feels like going back in time.

                        Wout

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        So you need a point with the circular aspect excluded. i.e. :beer:

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                          soap brain
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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting.

                          You mean its hyper-surface area.

                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside.

                          I don't even know what that means. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tesseract+volume[^]

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            Time? Or is that just a theory?

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                            Lost User
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                            As a dimension, yes, it is a theory.

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                              Your talking bollocks again Dave.

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                              • K Keith Barrow

                                A serious question: Isn't moving pixel sized triangles quicker with modern GPUs anyway? I assumed it was, still a PITA though.

                                Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                                -Or-
                                A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                wout de zeeuw
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                                Maybe, I still have to look into how to draw a pixel sized triangle that remains pixel sized regardless of how much the user zooms in/out. In OpenGL/DirectX 9 this used to be quite easy, but now you have to get into vertex shaders, texture mapping and such just to draw a dot. So instead of just doing a few lines of code and be done with it, now you have to research for a day how to draw a dot.

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                                • K Keith Barrow

                                  He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.

                                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                                  -Or-
                                  A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Khaaaaaaaan!

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