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  • C Colborne_Greg

    VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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    Simon_Whale
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    No as you would of written it like this VB.NET Version

    New image With
    {
    .height = height
    }

    C# Version, in the C# version the With Keyword is ommited

    new image { height = this.height }

    Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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      Are you still opposed to using (the namespace one, not the disposing one or the alias one) as well?

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Yes. And I really don't like that Extension Methods require the using directive. Very powerful are aliases though. Recently I used an alias to resolve a namespace conflict, rather than have globall:: scattered throughout some code:

      namespace PIEBALD.Data.MySql
      {
      using MySqlClient=global::MySql.Data.MySqlClient ;

      public sealed class DatabaseInfo : PIEBALD.Data.DatabaseInfo<MySqlClient.MySqlDbType>

      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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      • D Duncan Edwards Jones

        Inline XML? Does C# have that yet?

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        Kenneth Haugland
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        Don't know...

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        • C Colborne_Greg

          When dealing with a database, sometimes there are bad records. I meant for these try catches to be this way, as I don't care at this point why there would be problems in the data, all other errors are handled.

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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          • C Colborne_Greg

            That code would fail as the scopes would be confused

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            Richard Deeming
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            No it wouldn't.


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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            • C Colborne_Greg

              this message is spam

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              Richard Deeming
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              Colborne_Greg wrote:

              this message is spam

              OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                Colborne_Greg wrote:

                this message is spam

                OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                Colborne_Greg
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                Advertising your other post is spam

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                  Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                  Colborne_Greg
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                  I'm not using SQL

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                  • S Simon_Whale

                    No as you would of written it like this VB.NET Version

                    New image With
                    {
                    .height = height
                    }

                    C# Version, in the C# version the With Keyword is ommited

                    new image { height = this.height }

                    Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians. Help end the violence EAT BACON

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                    Colborne_Greg
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                    #77

                    So now instead of with I need this. And I would have to write this over and over and over

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      No it wouldn't.


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                      • C Colborne_Greg

                        I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                        Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                        Try
                        AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                            For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                Try
                                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                        (
                                            New Image With
                                            {
                                                .Height = 150,
                                                .Width = 150,
                                                .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                (
                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                )
                                            }
                                        )
                                Catch
                                End Try
                            Next
                        Catch
                        End Try
                        

                        End Sub

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                        gardnerp
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                        It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                        • M mikepwilson

                          "with" isn't particularly unique or interesting. There's a lot of functionality in a few lines. But you can stack up languages like cordwood that have lambdas, currying and/or templating features that would reduce the footprint of that code far more. It's awesome to be excited about a language. Lord knows I've spent most of the last 40 years that way. But do yourself a favor, take this post and put it in a calendar item marked 5 years from now and come back and look at it then. Visual Basic has come a long way since the VB3 days. But it's a very very long way away from winning awards for elegance.

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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          The unique part about the with; is that it is simple - easy to learn, little if no problems to overcome just by using the structure.

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                          • G gardnerp

                            It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                            Colborne_Greg
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                            #81

                            the try catches were not suppose to be illustrated as a bonus, and a laziness on my part, but intentional with how my code works

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                            • C Colborne_Greg

                              Advertising your other post is spam

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                              Richard Deeming
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                              #82

                              No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Colborne_Greg
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                                #83

                                In my defense I got this exact post 3 times without validating you only posted it once

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                                • C Colborne_Greg

                                  VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                                  Richard Deeming
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                                  Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                  second one fails

                                  No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                                  using System;

                                  public class Program
                                  {
                                  public static void Main()
                                  {
                                  int height = 100;
                                  var image = new Image { height = height };
                                  Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                                  }
                                  }

                                  public class Image
                                  {
                                  public int height { get; set; }
                                  }

                                  Output: The image's height is 100.


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                  • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                    Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                    second one fails

                                    No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                                    using System;

                                    public class Program
                                    {
                                    public static void Main()
                                    {
                                    int height = 100;
                                    var image = new Image { height = height };
                                    Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                                    }
                                    }

                                    public class Image
                                    {
                                    public int height { get; set; }
                                    }

                                    Output: The image's height is 100.


                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                    Colborne_Greg
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                                    #85

                                    damn

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                                    • C Colborne_Greg

                                      What problem? People with less skill are more focused on getting the job done, then writing cool useless code.

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                                      OriginalGriff
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                                      #86

                                      The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

                                      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                        Jorgen Andersson
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                                        #87

                                        What's the problem?

                                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

                                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                          Lost User
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                                                 Catch
                                                  End Try
                                              Next
                                          Catch
                                          End Try
                                          

                                          End Sub

                                          A rat's tail of different closing elements instead of some simple closing brackets.

                                          The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                          I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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