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  • C Colborne_Greg

    this message is spam

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    Richard Deeming
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    Colborne_Greg wrote:

    this message is spam

    OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


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      Colborne_Greg wrote:

      this message is spam

      OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      Colborne_Greg
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      Advertising your other post is spam

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        Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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        Colborne_Greg
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        #76

        I'm not using SQL

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        • S Simon_Whale

          No as you would of written it like this VB.NET Version

          New image With
          {
          .height = height
          }

          C# Version, in the C# version the With Keyword is ommited

          new image { height = this.height }

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          Colborne_Greg
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          #77

          So now instead of with I need this. And I would have to write this over and over and over

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            No it wouldn't.


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            Colborne_Greg
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            #78

            VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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            • C Colborne_Greg

              I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

              Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
              Try
              AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                  For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                      Try
                          AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                              (
                                  New Image With
                                  {
                                      .Height = 150,
                                      .Width = 150,
                                      .Source = RotateStream \_
                                      (
                                          Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                          Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                      )
                                  }
                              )
                      Catch
                      End Try
                  Next
              Catch
              End Try
              

              End Sub

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              gardnerp
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              #79

              It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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              • M mikepwilson

                "with" isn't particularly unique or interesting. There's a lot of functionality in a few lines. But you can stack up languages like cordwood that have lambdas, currying and/or templating features that would reduce the footprint of that code far more. It's awesome to be excited about a language. Lord knows I've spent most of the last 40 years that way. But do yourself a favor, take this post and put it in a calendar item marked 5 years from now and come back and look at it then. Visual Basic has come a long way since the VB3 days. But it's a very very long way away from winning awards for elegance.

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                Colborne_Greg
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                The unique part about the with; is that it is simple - easy to learn, little if no problems to overcome just by using the structure.

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                • G gardnerp

                  It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                  Colborne_Greg
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #81

                  the try catches were not suppose to be illustrated as a bonus, and a laziness on my part, but intentional with how my code works

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                  • C Colborne_Greg

                    Advertising your other post is spam

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                    Richard Deeming
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #82

                    No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      In my defense I got this exact post 3 times without validating you only posted it once

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                      • C Colborne_Greg

                        VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                        Richard Deeming
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                        #84

                        Colborne_Greg wrote:

                        second one fails

                        No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                        using System;

                        public class Program
                        {
                        public static void Main()
                        {
                        int height = 100;
                        var image = new Image { height = height };
                        Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                        }
                        }

                        public class Image
                        {
                        public int height { get; set; }
                        }

                        Output: The image's height is 100.


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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          second one fails

                          No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                          using System;

                          public class Program
                          {
                          public static void Main()
                          {
                          int height = 100;
                          var image = new Image { height = height };
                          Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                          }
                          }

                          public class Image
                          {
                          public int height { get; set; }
                          }

                          Output: The image's height is 100.


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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          damn

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                          • C Colborne_Greg

                            What problem? People with less skill are more focused on getting the job done, then writing cool useless code.

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                              You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              #87

                              What's the problem?

                              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                       Catch
                                        End Try
                                    Next
                                Catch
                                End Try
                                

                                End Sub

                                A rat's tail of different closing elements instead of some simple closing brackets.

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                                • C Colborne_Greg

                                  I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                  Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                  Try
                                  AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                      For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                          Try
                                              AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                  (
                                                      New Image With
                                                      {
                                                          .Height = 150,
                                                          .Width = 150,
                                                          .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                          (
                                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                          )
                                                      }
                                                  )
                                          Catch
                                          End Try
                                      Next
                                  Catch
                                  End Try
                                  

                                  End Sub

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  #89

                                  Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

                                    Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                    Colborne_Greg
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                                    My employee cost vs performance says otherwise

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                      Colborne_Greg
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                                      Swift looks like C# almost exactly

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        Yes. And I really don't like that Extension Methods require the using directive. Very powerful are aliases though. Recently I used an alias to resolve a namespace conflict, rather than have globall:: scattered throughout some code:

                                        namespace PIEBALD.Data.MySql
                                        {
                                        using MySqlClient=global::MySql.Data.MySqlClient ;

                                        public sealed class DatabaseInfo : PIEBALD.Data.DatabaseInfo<MySqlClient.MySqlDbType>

                                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                        Colborne_Greg
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                                        #92

                                        Thank God I don't need SQL anymore. I use Unidex which I wrote in Visual basic ;)

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                                        • C Colborne_Greg

                                          Swift looks like C# almost exactly

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          #93

                                          Of course my comment is tongue-in-cheek, but you must not have looked at Swift hard enough yet.

                                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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