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  • C Colborne_Greg

    When dealing with a database, sometimes there are bad records. I meant for these try catches to be this way, as I don't care at this point why there would be problems in the data, all other errors are handled.

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

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    • C Colborne_Greg

      That code would fail as the scopes would be confused

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      No it wouldn't.


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      • C Colborne_Greg

        this message is spam

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        Colborne_Greg wrote:

        this message is spam

        OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


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        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

          Colborne_Greg wrote:

          this message is spam

          OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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          Colborne_Greg
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          Advertising your other post is spam

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            Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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            Colborne_Greg
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            #76

            I'm not using SQL

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            • S Simon_Whale

              No as you would of written it like this VB.NET Version

              New image With
              {
              .height = height
              }

              C# Version, in the C# version the With Keyword is ommited

              new image { height = this.height }

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              Colborne_Greg
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              #77

              So now instead of with I need this. And I would have to write this over and over and over

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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                No it wouldn't.


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                Colborne_Greg
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                VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                • C Colborne_Greg

                  I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                  Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                  Try
                  AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                      For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                          Try
                              AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                  (
                                      New Image With
                                      {
                                          .Height = 150,
                                          .Width = 150,
                                          .Source = RotateStream \_
                                          (
                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                              Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                          )
                                      }
                                  )
                          Catch
                          End Try
                      Next
                  Catch
                  End Try
                  

                  End Sub

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                  gardnerp
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                  It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                  • M mikepwilson

                    "with" isn't particularly unique or interesting. There's a lot of functionality in a few lines. But you can stack up languages like cordwood that have lambdas, currying and/or templating features that would reduce the footprint of that code far more. It's awesome to be excited about a language. Lord knows I've spent most of the last 40 years that way. But do yourself a favor, take this post and put it in a calendar item marked 5 years from now and come back and look at it then. Visual Basic has come a long way since the VB3 days. But it's a very very long way away from winning awards for elegance.

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                    Colborne_Greg
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                    The unique part about the with; is that it is simple - easy to learn, little if no problems to overcome just by using the structure.

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                    • C Colborne_Greg

                      Advertising your other post is spam

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


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                      • G gardnerp

                        It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                        Colborne_Greg
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                        the try catches were not suppose to be illustrated as a bonus, and a laziness on my part, but intentional with how my code works

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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          In my defense I got this exact post 3 times without validating you only posted it once

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                          • C Colborne_Greg

                            VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                            Richard Deeming
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                            Colborne_Greg wrote:

                            second one fails

                            No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                            using System;

                            public class Program
                            {
                            public static void Main()
                            {
                            int height = 100;
                            var image = new Image { height = height };
                            Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                            }
                            }

                            public class Image
                            {
                            public int height { get; set; }
                            }

                            Output: The image's height is 100.


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                              Colborne_Greg wrote:

                              second one fails

                              No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                              using System;

                              public class Program
                              {
                              public static void Main()
                              {
                              int height = 100;
                              var image = new Image { height = height };
                              Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                              }
                              }

                              public class Image
                              {
                              public int height { get; set; }
                              }

                              Output: The image's height is 100.


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                              Colborne_Greg
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                              damn

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                              • C Colborne_Greg

                                What problem? People with less skill are more focused on getting the job done, then writing cool useless code.

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                                OriginalGriff
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                                The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  What's the problem?

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

                                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                    Lost User
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                                           Catch
                                            End Try
                                        Next
                                    Catch
                                    End Try
                                    

                                    End Sub

                                    A rat's tail of different closing elements instead of some simple closing brackets.

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                                    • C Colborne_Greg

                                      I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                      Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                      Try
                                      AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                          For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                              Try
                                                  AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                      (
                                                          New Image With
                                                          {
                                                              .Height = 150,
                                                              .Width = 150,
                                                              .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                              (
                                                                  Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                  Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                              )
                                                          }
                                                      )
                                              Catch
                                              End Try
                                          Next
                                      Catch
                                      End Try
                                      

                                      End Sub

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

                                        Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                        Colborne_Greg
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                                        My employee cost vs performance says otherwise

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          Yes. And I really don't like that Extension Methods require the using directive. Very powerful are aliases though. Recently I used an alias to resolve a namespace conflict, rather than have globall:: scattered throughout some code:

                                          namespace PIEBALD.Data.MySql
                                          {
                                          using MySqlClient=global::MySql.Data.MySqlClient ;

                                          public sealed class DatabaseInfo : PIEBALD.Data.DatabaseInfo<MySqlClient.MySqlDbType>

                                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                          Colborne_Greg
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                                          Thank God I don't need SQL anymore. I use Unidex which I wrote in Visual basic ;)

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