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  • C Colborne_Greg

    That code would fail as the scopes would be confused

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    Richard Deeming
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    No it wouldn't.


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    • C Colborne_Greg

      this message is spam

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      Colborne_Greg wrote:

      this message is spam

      OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        Colborne_Greg wrote:

        this message is spam

        OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


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        Colborne_Greg
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        Advertising your other post is spam

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          Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

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          Colborne_Greg
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          #76

          I'm not using SQL

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          • S Simon_Whale

            No as you would of written it like this VB.NET Version

            New image With
            {
            .height = height
            }

            C# Version, in the C# version the With Keyword is ommited

            new image { height = this.height }

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            Colborne_Greg
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            #77

            So now instead of with I need this. And I would have to write this over and over and over

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            • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

              No it wouldn't.


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              Colborne_Greg
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              #78

              VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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              • C Colborne_Greg

                I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                Try
                AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                    For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                        Try
                            AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                (
                                    New Image With
                                    {
                                        .Height = 150,
                                        .Width = 150,
                                        .Source = RotateStream \_
                                        (
                                            Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                            Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                        )
                                    }
                                )
                        Catch
                        End Try
                    Next
                Catch
                End Try
                

                End Sub

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                gardnerp
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                It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                • M mikepwilson

                  "with" isn't particularly unique or interesting. There's a lot of functionality in a few lines. But you can stack up languages like cordwood that have lambdas, currying and/or templating features that would reduce the footprint of that code far more. It's awesome to be excited about a language. Lord knows I've spent most of the last 40 years that way. But do yourself a favor, take this post and put it in a calendar item marked 5 years from now and come back and look at it then. Visual Basic has come a long way since the VB3 days. But it's a very very long way away from winning awards for elegance.

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                  Colborne_Greg
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                  The unique part about the with; is that it is simple - easy to learn, little if no problems to overcome just by using the structure.

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                  • C Colborne_Greg

                    Advertising your other post is spam

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                    Richard Deeming
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #81

                    No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


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                    • G gardnerp

                      It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      #82

                      the try catches were not suppose to be illustrated as a bonus, and a laziness on my part, but intentional with how my code works

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                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                        No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


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                        Colborne_Greg
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                        In my defense I got this exact post 3 times without validating you only posted it once

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                        • C Colborne_Greg

                          VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                          Colborne_Greg wrote:

                          second one fails

                          No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                          using System;

                          public class Program
                          {
                          public static void Main()
                          {
                          int height = 100;
                          var image = new Image { height = height };
                          Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                          }
                          }

                          public class Image
                          {
                          public int height { get; set; }
                          }

                          Output: The image's height is 100.


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                            Colborne_Greg wrote:

                            second one fails

                            No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                            using System;

                            public class Program
                            {
                            public static void Main()
                            {
                            int height = 100;
                            var image = new Image { height = height };
                            Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                            }
                            }

                            public class Image
                            {
                            public int height { get; set; }
                            }

                            Output: The image's height is 100.


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                            Colborne_Greg
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                            damn

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                            • C Colborne_Greg

                              What problem? People with less skill are more focused on getting the job done, then writing cool useless code.

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                              The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                Jorgen Andersson
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                                #87

                                What's the problem?

                                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                • P PIEBALDconsult

                                  What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

                                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                  #88
                                         Catch
                                          End Try
                                      Next
                                  Catch
                                  End Try
                                  

                                  End Sub

                                  A rat's tail of different closing elements instead of some simple closing brackets.

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                                  • C Colborne_Greg

                                    I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                    Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                    Try
                                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                        For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                            Try
                                                AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                    (
                                                        New Image With
                                                        {
                                                            .Height = 150,
                                                            .Width = 150,
                                                            .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                            (
                                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                            )
                                                        }
                                                    )
                                            Catch
                                            End Try
                                        Next
                                    Catch
                                    End Try
                                    

                                    End Sub

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    #89

                                    Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

                                      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                      Colborne_Greg
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                                      My employee cost vs performance says otherwise

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        Yes. And I really don't like that Extension Methods require the using directive. Very powerful are aliases though. Recently I used an alias to resolve a namespace conflict, rather than have globall:: scattered throughout some code:

                                        namespace PIEBALD.Data.MySql
                                        {
                                        using MySqlClient=global::MySql.Data.MySqlClient ;

                                        public sealed class DatabaseInfo : PIEBALD.Data.DatabaseInfo<MySqlClient.MySqlDbType>

                                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                        Colborne_Greg
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                                        Thank God I don't need SQL anymore. I use Unidex which I wrote in Visual basic ;)

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                                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                                          Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                          Colborne_Greg
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #92

                                          Swift looks like C# almost exactly

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