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  • G gardnerp

    It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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    Colborne_Greg
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    the try catches were not suppose to be illustrated as a bonus, and a laziness on my part, but intentional with how my code works

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    • C Colborne_Greg

      Advertising your other post is spam

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      Richard Deeming
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      No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        Colborne_Greg
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        In my defense I got this exact post 3 times without validating you only posted it once

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        • C Colborne_Greg

          VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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          Richard Deeming
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          Colborne_Greg wrote:

          second one fails

          No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

          using System;

          public class Program
          {
          public static void Main()
          {
          int height = 100;
          var image = new Image { height = height };
          Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
          }
          }

          public class Image
          {
          public int height { get; set; }
          }

          Output: The image's height is 100.


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            Colborne_Greg wrote:

            second one fails

            No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

            using System;

            public class Program
            {
            public static void Main()
            {
            int height = 100;
            var image = new Image { height = height };
            Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
            }
            }

            public class Image
            {
            public int height { get; set; }
            }

            Output: The image's height is 100.


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            Colborne_Greg
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            #85

            damn

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            • C Colborne_Greg

              What problem? People with less skill are more focused on getting the job done, then writing cool useless code.

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              OriginalGriff
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              The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

              Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                #87

                What's the problem?

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

                  You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                  Lost User
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                  #88
                         Catch
                          End Try
                      Next
                  Catch
                  End Try
                  

                  End Sub

                  A rat's tail of different closing elements instead of some simple closing brackets.

                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                  I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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                  • C Colborne_Greg

                    I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                    Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                    Try
                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                        For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                            Try
                                AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                    (
                                        New Image With
                                        {
                                            .Height = 150,
                                            .Width = 150,
                                            .Source = RotateStream \_
                                            (
                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                            )
                                        }
                                    )
                            Catch
                            End Try
                        Next
                    Catch
                    End Try
                    

                    End Sub

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    #89

                    Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

                      Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      #90

                      My employee cost vs performance says otherwise

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                        Colborne_Greg
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                        #91

                        Swift looks like C# almost exactly

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          Yes. And I really don't like that Extension Methods require the using directive. Very powerful are aliases though. Recently I used an alias to resolve a namespace conflict, rather than have globall:: scattered throughout some code:

                          namespace PIEBALD.Data.MySql
                          {
                          using MySqlClient=global::MySql.Data.MySqlClient ;

                          public sealed class DatabaseInfo : PIEBALD.Data.DatabaseInfo<MySqlClient.MySqlDbType>

                          You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          #92

                          Thank God I don't need SQL anymore. I use Unidex which I wrote in Visual basic ;)

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                            Swift looks like C# almost exactly

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            #93

                            Of course my comment is tongue-in-cheek, but you must not have looked at Swift hard enough yet.

                            You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                     Catch
                                      End Try
                                  Next
                              Catch
                              End Try
                              

                              End Sub

                              A rat's tail of different closing elements instead of some simple closing brackets.

                              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                              I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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                              Colborne_Greg
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                              Visual basic does not have the closing bracket issue that C# has. It makes it easier for people that have less or no skill to be more productive, oh look win for VB.

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                                Of course my comment is tongue-in-cheek, but you must not have looked at Swift hard enough yet.

                                You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                Colborne_Greg
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                                #95

                                No I haven't, I've only seen declaring memory and other basic functions which all were the exact same as C#

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                                • C Colborne_Greg

                                  Most of that code is autocompleted also the inside catch is to ensure the loop continues

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                  also the inside catch is to ensure the loop continues

                                  Now you're swallowing 10.000 exceptions in a loop :laugh: After that a "File Saved Succesfull" dialog and pretend nothing ever happened.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                    Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                    also the inside catch is to ensure the loop continues

                                    Now you're swallowing 10.000 exceptions in a loop :laugh: After that a "File Saved Succesfull" dialog and pretend nothing ever happened.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                    Colborne_Greg
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                                    No the problem is when one error exists it kills the loop half way through, this code is only run to display results on the GUI, so not only do I not want it to fail for one error, I don't want it to waste time trying to figure out anything related to that error. I am only unidex the only errors that get through to a client are typos, such as bad filenames

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                                      Visual basic does not have the closing bracket issue that C# has. It makes it easier for people that have less or no skill to be more productive, oh look win for VB.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                      It makes it easier for people that have less or no skill to be more productive

                                      And that's exactly what raises my expectations whenever someone comes with VB.

                                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                      I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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                                        Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                        also the inside catch is to ensure the loop continues

                                        Now you're swallowing 10.000 exceptions in a loop :laugh: After that a "File Saved Succesfull" dialog and pretend nothing ever happened.

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                                        Lost User
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                                        How often I have seen something like that. And then the criminal who wrote this thinks he's being treated unjustly and exclaims something like "But it always has worked!". And then try to explain to Mr. Pointy Hair that this mess only pretended to work at best, fell flat on its face and was more busy covering it up than anything else at worst, and that looking away will not solve anything or save us one single cent.

                                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                        I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.

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                                        • C Colborne_Greg

                                          If pictures is null the memory space creates itself and returns a empty album list

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                                          Mycroft Holmes
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                                          I think he is referring to the empty catch, it was my first thought. Oh a new version of resume next :laugh:

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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