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  • D Duncan Edwards Jones

    Inline XML? Does C# have that yet?

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    Kenneth Haugland
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    Don't know...

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    • C Colborne_Greg

      When dealing with a database, sometimes there are bad records. I meant for these try catches to be this way, as I don't care at this point why there would be problems in the data, all other errors are handled.

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      Jorgen Andersson
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      Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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      • C Colborne_Greg

        That code would fail as the scopes would be confused

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        Richard Deeming
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        No it wouldn't.


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        • C Colborne_Greg

          this message is spam

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          Colborne_Greg wrote:

          this message is spam

          OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


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            Colborne_Greg wrote:

            this message is spam

            OK, at least you're being honest about it. As requested, I've reported your message as spam. Happy now? ;P


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            Colborne_Greg
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            Advertising your other post is spam

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              Then catch the DB errors and rethrow the rest.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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              Colborne_Greg
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              #76

              I'm not using SQL

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              • S Simon_Whale

                No as you would of written it like this VB.NET Version

                New image With
                {
                .height = height
                }

                C# Version, in the C# version the With Keyword is ommited

                new image { height = this.height }

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                Colborne_Greg
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                #77

                So now instead of with I need this. And I would have to write this over and over and over

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  No it wouldn't.


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  Colborne_Greg
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                  #78

                  VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                  • C Colborne_Greg

                    I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                    Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                    Try
                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                        For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                            Try
                                AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                    (
                                        New Image With
                                        {
                                            .Height = 150,
                                            .Width = 150,
                                            .Source = RotateStream \_
                                            (
                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                            )
                                        }
                                    )
                            Catch
                            End Try
                        Next
                    Catch
                    End Try
                    

                    End Sub

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                    gardnerp
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                    #79

                    It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                    • M mikepwilson

                      "with" isn't particularly unique or interesting. There's a lot of functionality in a few lines. But you can stack up languages like cordwood that have lambdas, currying and/or templating features that would reduce the footprint of that code far more. It's awesome to be excited about a language. Lord knows I've spent most of the last 40 years that way. But do yourself a favor, take this post and put it in a calendar item marked 5 years from now and come back and look at it then. Visual Basic has come a long way since the VB3 days. But it's a very very long way away from winning awards for elegance.

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                      Colborne_Greg
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                      The unique part about the with; is that it is simple - easy to learn, little if no problems to overcome just by using the structure.

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                      • C Colborne_Greg

                        Advertising your other post is spam

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                        Richard Deeming
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                        No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


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                        • G gardnerp

                          It's just not that elegant to have two separate try/catch blocks that completely hide the error and never handle it. And everything you have there can be done in C# as well.

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                          Colborne_Greg
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                          the try catches were not suppose to be illustrated as a bonus, and a laziness on my part, but intentional with how my code works

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                          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                            No, posting links to unrelated sites or commercial products is spam. Telling a user that you've already replied to their comments in another post on the same site is not. Falsely accusing other members of posting spam, however, would count as abuse. :suss:


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                            Colborne_Greg
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                            In my defense I got this exact post 3 times without validating you only posted it once

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                            • C Colborne_Greg

                              VB New image with {.height = height} C# New image {height = height} second one fails

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                              Richard Deeming
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                              Colborne_Greg wrote:

                              second one fails

                              No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                              using System;

                              public class Program
                              {
                              public static void Main()
                              {
                              int height = 100;
                              var image = new Image { height = height };
                              Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                              }
                              }

                              public class Image
                              {
                              public int height { get; set; }
                              }

                              Output: The image's height is 100.


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                                Colborne_Greg wrote:

                                second one fails

                                No, it doesn't. https://dotnetfiddle.net/J0N7Mm[^]

                                using System;

                                public class Program
                                {
                                public static void Main()
                                {
                                int height = 100;
                                var image = new Image { height = height };
                                Console.WriteLine("The image's height is {0}.", image.height);
                                }
                                }

                                public class Image
                                {
                                public int height { get; set; }
                                }

                                Output: The image's height is 100.


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                                Colborne_Greg
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                                #85

                                damn

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                                • C Colborne_Greg

                                  What problem? People with less skill are more focused on getting the job done, then writing cool useless code.

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    That's what makes C# better than VB. :-D Try writing an event that returns a value in VB. :cool:

                                    You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    #87

                                    What's the problem?

                                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      What about that can't be done in C#? :confused:

                                      You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                      Lost User
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                                             Catch
                                              End Try
                                          Next
                                      Catch
                                      End Try
                                      

                                      End Sub

                                      A rat's tail of different closing elements instead of some simple closing brackets.

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                                      • C Colborne_Greg

                                        I think that Visual Basic should be shown off for its beauty and elegance. Here is a sample of what it can do - that no other language can do:

                                        Private Sub AlbumListPopulate()
                                        Try
                                        AlbumsList.ItemsSource = New List(Of Image)

                                            For Each AlbumName In Pictures.Albums
                                                Try
                                                    AlbumsList.ItemsSource.Add \_
                                                        (
                                                            New Image With
                                                            {
                                                                .Height = 150,
                                                                .Width = 150,
                                                                .Source = RotateStream \_
                                                                (
                                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Picture,
                                                                    Pictures.Album(AlbumName).Angle
                                                                )
                                                            }
                                                        )
                                                Catch
                                                End Try
                                            Next
                                        Catch
                                        End Try
                                        

                                        End Sub

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        Actually it just got a lot more credit... Swift is Apple's version of VB. :-D

                                        You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          The problem is that "people with less skill" assume that a "ooh shiny" language feature is cool at all. With is a PITA - it doesn't improve readability, it obfuscates it slightly and just makes it slightly shorter to type.

                                          Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952) Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

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                                          Colborne_Greg
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                                          My employee cost vs performance says otherwise

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