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  • R Ravi Bhavnani

    Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

    English French German Italian Spanish


    Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
    Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
    Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
    Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

    /ravi

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    I think the biggest issue Ravi is how you are going to use some of these for example, 'tomorrow' - in French if wanted to say 'tomorrow' as Im talking to someone and I know I'll be back and see them tomorrow, I'd simply say 'à demain', Italian I'd simply say 'a domani' In all of the cases Google has given you, they have given you '(the) tomorrow' - but, Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee, so hopefully Carlo Pallini, Maximillien etc will be able to help you more (and you might want to indicate in your question how/where you're using the words ie context) 'g'

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    • R Ravi Bhavnani

      Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

      English French German Italian Spanish


      Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
      Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
      Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
      Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

      /ravi

      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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      Lost User
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      Well, the Spanish translations are almost all correct except for the third one. Tomorrow is just "Mañana", drop the article "La". "La mañana" would translate to English as "the morning". Good luck! -Edit- Also, "tomorrow night" could vary if it is used as an adverbial phrase instead of a noun phrase. It could be "mañana en la noche", or "mañana por la noche". "La noche de mañana" is a noun phrase.

      Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
      In the worst way that could be possible!

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        Well, the Spanish translations are almost all correct except for the third one. Tomorrow is just "Mañana", drop the article "La". "La mañana" would translate to English as "the morning". Good luck! -Edit- Also, "tomorrow night" could vary if it is used as an adverbial phrase instead of a noun phrase. It could be "mañana en la noche", or "mañana por la noche". "La noche de mañana" is a noun phrase.

        Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
        In the worst way that could be possible!

        –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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        Leandro Taset wrote:

        Tomorrow is just "Mañana", drop the article "La".

        It did the same thing with French: I don't know why it decided to use "le demain" instead of just "demain".

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          I think the biggest issue Ravi is how you are going to use some of these for example, 'tomorrow' - in French if wanted to say 'tomorrow' as Im talking to someone and I know I'll be back and see them tomorrow, I'd simply say 'à demain', Italian I'd simply say 'a domani' In all of the cases Google has given you, they have given you '(the) tomorrow' - but, Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee, so hopefully Carlo Pallini, Maximillien etc will be able to help you more (and you might want to indicate in your question how/where you're using the words ie context) 'g'

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          Ravi Bhavnani
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          Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

          Today: Shepherd's Pie
          Tonight: Lasagna
          Tomorrow: Pizza
          Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
          

          /ravi

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            Leandro Taset wrote:

            Tomorrow is just "Mañana", drop the article "La".

            It did the same thing with French: I don't know why it decided to use "le demain" instead of just "demain".

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            Ravi Bhavnani
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            Thanks. /ravi

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            • R Ravi Bhavnani

              Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

              English French German Italian Spanish


              Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
              Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
              Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
              Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

              /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              Mostly, delete all instances of "le", "la", "der", and "gli", and you're close enough (either that or put "the" in front of the English versions). Two of the Italian ones are seriously wrong, though; particularly "le stasera", which is wrong for two reasons: 1. "Stasera" is feminine, so it should be "la", except that: 2. "Stasera" is an elided form of "questa sera", so saying "la stasera" is like saying "the this evening". "La sera" is "the evening". With "domani", "gli" indicates that it's plural, so it's like saying "all tomorrows"/"the future"; "tomorrow" is just "domani". And unless you spent time with an Italian speaker practicing how to say "gli", it's unlikely that any Italian would understand you saying it, anyway -- the 'g' is sort-of silent (but you have to kinda roll the middle/back of your tongue), and it ends with a "yi" sound, rather than an "i" sound (the pronunciation is easy to demonstrate, but tricky to write down).

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              • L Lost User

                Well, the Spanish translations are almost all correct except for the third one. Tomorrow is just "Mañana", drop the article "La". "La mañana" would translate to English as "the morning". Good luck! -Edit- Also, "tomorrow night" could vary if it is used as an adverbial phrase instead of a noun phrase. It could be "mañana en la noche", or "mañana por la noche". "La noche de mañana" is a noun phrase.

                Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                In the worst way that could be possible!

                –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                Ravi Bhavnani
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                Thanks.  They will be used as noun forms (see my reply to Garth). /ravi

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

                  Today: Shepherd's Pie
                  Tonight: Lasagna
                  Tomorrow: Pizza
                  Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
                  

                  /ravi

                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  Today: Pizza
                  Tonight: Pizza
                  Tomorrow: Pizza
                  Tomorrow night: Pizza

                  FTFY.

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    Mostly, delete all instances of "le", "la", "der", and "gli", and you're close enough (either that or put "the" in front of the English versions). Two of the Italian ones are seriously wrong, though; particularly "le stasera", which is wrong for two reasons: 1. "Stasera" is feminine, so it should be "la", except that: 2. "Stasera" is an elided form of "questa sera", so saying "la stasera" is like saying "the this evening". "La sera" is "the evening". With "domani", "gli" indicates that it's plural, so it's like saying "all tomorrows"/"the future"; "tomorrow" is just "domani". And unless you spent time with an Italian speaker practicing how to say "gli", it's unlikely that any Italian would understand you saying it, anyway -- the 'g' is sort-of silent (but you have to kinda roll the middle/back of your tongue), and it ends with a "yi" sound, rather than an "i" sound (the pronunciation is easy to demonstrate, but tricky to write down).

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    Thanks, Mark! /ravi

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                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                      Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

                      Today: Shepherd's Pie
                      Tonight: Lasagna
                      Tomorrow: Pizza
                      Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
                      

                      /ravi

                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                      In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

                      Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                      In the worst way that could be possible!

                      –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                        Today: Pizza
                        Tonight: Pizza
                        Tomorrow: Pizza
                        Tomorrow night: Pizza

                        FTFY.

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        I'm making (i.e. boiling) pasta tonight!  With spicy garlicky pasta sauce and Indian style ground beef. /ravi

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                        • L Lost User

                          In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

                          Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                          In the worst way that could be possible!

                          –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                          Thank you! /ravi

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                          • R Ravi Bhavnani

                            Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                            English French German Italian Spanish


                            Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                            Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                            Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                            Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                            /ravi

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                            I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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                            • R Ravi Bhavnani

                              Thank you! /ravi

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                              Lost User
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                              :thumbsup:

                              Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                              In the worst way that could be possible!

                              –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                                English French German Italian Spanish


                                Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                                Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                                Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                                Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                                /ravi

                                My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                THe Spanish looks OK.

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                                • T tgrt

                                  I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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                                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                                  Agreed.  I don't rely on it for translating app resources, hence my original post.  It serves its purpose when translating web pages or chunks of text when you want to get the gist of what's being said. /ravi

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                                    THe Spanish looks OK.

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                                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                                    Thanks, Walt. /ravi

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                                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                      Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                                      English French German Italian Spanish


                                      Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                                      Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                                      Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                                      Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                                      /ravi

                                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                                      You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

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                                      • M Manfred Rudolf Bihy

                                        You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

                                        "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                        Ron White, Comedian

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                                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                                        Thanks! /ravi

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                                        • G Garth J Lancaster

                                          I think the biggest issue Ravi is how you are going to use some of these for example, 'tomorrow' - in French if wanted to say 'tomorrow' as Im talking to someone and I know I'll be back and see them tomorrow, I'd simply say 'à demain', Italian I'd simply say 'a domani' In all of the cases Google has given you, they have given you '(the) tomorrow' - but, Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee, so hopefully Carlo Pallini, Maximillien etc will be able to help you more (and you might want to indicate in your question how/where you're using the words ie context) 'g'

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                                          Paul M Watt
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                                          Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                                          Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee,

                                          Yeah, but do you know how to order coffee tommorrow or tomorrow night in those languages ;)

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