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  • M Mark_Wallace

    Mostly, delete all instances of "le", "la", "der", and "gli", and you're close enough (either that or put "the" in front of the English versions). Two of the Italian ones are seriously wrong, though; particularly "le stasera", which is wrong for two reasons: 1. "Stasera" is feminine, so it should be "la", except that: 2. "Stasera" is an elided form of "questa sera", so saying "la stasera" is like saying "the this evening". "La sera" is "the evening". With "domani", "gli" indicates that it's plural, so it's like saying "all tomorrows"/"the future"; "tomorrow" is just "domani". And unless you spent time with an Italian speaker practicing how to say "gli", it's unlikely that any Italian would understand you saying it, anyway -- the 'g' is sort-of silent (but you have to kinda roll the middle/back of your tongue), and it ends with a "yi" sound, rather than an "i" sound (the pronunciation is easy to demonstrate, but tricky to write down).

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    • R Ravi Bhavnani

      Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

      Today: Shepherd's Pie
      Tonight: Lasagna
      Tomorrow: Pizza
      Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
      

      /ravi

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      Lost User
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      In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

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      In the worst way that could be possible!

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        Today: Pizza
        Tonight: Pizza
        Tomorrow: Pizza
        Tomorrow night: Pizza

        FTFY.

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        I'm making (i.e. boiling) pasta tonight!  With spicy garlicky pasta sauce and Indian style ground beef. /ravi

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        • L Lost User

          In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

          Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
          In the worst way that could be possible!

          –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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          Ravi Bhavnani
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          Thank you! /ravi

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          • R Ravi Bhavnani

            Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

            English French German Italian Spanish


            Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
            Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
            Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
            Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

            /ravi

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            tgrt
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            I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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            • R Ravi Bhavnani

              Thank you! /ravi

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              Lost User
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              :thumbsup:

              Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
              In the worst way that could be possible!

              –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                English French German Italian Spanish


                Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                /ravi

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                Dr Walt Fair PE
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                THe Spanish looks OK.

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                • T tgrt

                  I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  Agreed.  I don't rely on it for translating app resources, hence my original post.  It serves its purpose when translating web pages or chunks of text when you want to get the gist of what's being said. /ravi

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                  • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                    THe Spanish looks OK.

                    CQ de W5ALT

                    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    Thanks, Walt. /ravi

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                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                      Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                      English French German Italian Spanish


                      Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                      Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                      Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                      Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                      /ravi

                      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                      You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

                      "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

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                      • M Manfred Rudolf Bihy

                        You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

                        "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                        Ron White, Comedian

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        Thanks! /ravi

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                        • G Garth J Lancaster

                          I think the biggest issue Ravi is how you are going to use some of these for example, 'tomorrow' - in French if wanted to say 'tomorrow' as Im talking to someone and I know I'll be back and see them tomorrow, I'd simply say 'à demain', Italian I'd simply say 'a domani' In all of the cases Google has given you, they have given you '(the) tomorrow' - but, Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee, so hopefully Carlo Pallini, Maximillien etc will be able to help you more (and you might want to indicate in your question how/where you're using the words ie context) 'g'

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                          Paul M Watt
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                          Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                          Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee,

                          Yeah, but do you know how to order coffee tommorrow or tomorrow night in those languages ;)

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                          • P Paul M Watt

                            Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                            Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee,

                            Yeah, but do you know how to order coffee tommorrow or tomorrow night in those languages ;)

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                            Garth J Lancaster
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                            yuck - it'd be cold by that time !!! :-) so I'd stick with maintenant, ora, jetzt & ahora ;P

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                            • R Ravi Bhavnani

                              Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                              English French German Italian Spanish


                              Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                              Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                              Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                              Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                              /ravi

                              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              Well, I don't trust Google translate at all, to many funny results for that. But even if it's useless for this case I think I should tip you off on my way to find translations for more technical cases. I simply look up what I want to translate in Wikipedia and look for the article in other languages, et voila.

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