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  • R Ravi Bhavnani

    Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

    English French German Italian Spanish


    Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
    Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
    Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
    Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

    /ravi

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    Mostly, delete all instances of "le", "la", "der", and "gli", and you're close enough (either that or put "the" in front of the English versions). Two of the Italian ones are seriously wrong, though; particularly "le stasera", which is wrong for two reasons: 1. "Stasera" is feminine, so it should be "la", except that: 2. "Stasera" is an elided form of "questa sera", so saying "la stasera" is like saying "the this evening". "La sera" is "the evening". With "domani", "gli" indicates that it's plural, so it's like saying "all tomorrows"/"the future"; "tomorrow" is just "domani". And unless you spent time with an Italian speaker practicing how to say "gli", it's unlikely that any Italian would understand you saying it, anyway -- the 'g' is sort-of silent (but you have to kinda roll the middle/back of your tongue), and it ends with a "yi" sound, rather than an "i" sound (the pronunciation is easy to demonstrate, but tricky to write down).

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    • R Ravi Bhavnani

      Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

      Today: Shepherd's Pie
      Tonight: Lasagna
      Tomorrow: Pizza
      Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
      

      /ravi

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Today: Pizza
      Tonight: Pizza
      Tomorrow: Pizza
      Tomorrow night: Pizza

      FTFY.

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Mostly, delete all instances of "le", "la", "der", and "gli", and you're close enough (either that or put "the" in front of the English versions). Two of the Italian ones are seriously wrong, though; particularly "le stasera", which is wrong for two reasons: 1. "Stasera" is feminine, so it should be "la", except that: 2. "Stasera" is an elided form of "questa sera", so saying "la stasera" is like saying "the this evening". "La sera" is "the evening". With "domani", "gli" indicates that it's plural, so it's like saying "all tomorrows"/"the future"; "tomorrow" is just "domani". And unless you spent time with an Italian speaker practicing how to say "gli", it's unlikely that any Italian would understand you saying it, anyway -- the 'g' is sort-of silent (but you have to kinda roll the middle/back of your tongue), and it ends with a "yi" sound, rather than an "i" sound (the pronunciation is easy to demonstrate, but tricky to write down).

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        Thanks, Mark! /ravi

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        • R Ravi Bhavnani

          Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

          Today: Shepherd's Pie
          Tonight: Lasagna
          Tomorrow: Pizza
          Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
          

          /ravi

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          Lost User
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          In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

          Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
          In the worst way that could be possible!

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Today: Pizza
            Tonight: Pizza
            Tomorrow: Pizza
            Tomorrow night: Pizza

            FTFY.

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            Ravi Bhavnani
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            I'm making (i.e. boiling) pasta tonight!  With spicy garlicky pasta sauce and Indian style ground beef. /ravi

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            • L Lost User

              In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

              Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
              In the worst way that could be possible!

              –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              Thank you! /ravi

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              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                English French German Italian Spanish


                Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                /ravi

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                tgrt
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                I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  Thank you! /ravi

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                  Lost User
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                  :thumbsup:

                  Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                  In the worst way that could be possible!

                  –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                    Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                    English French German Italian Spanish


                    Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                    Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                    Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                    Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                    /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                    THe Spanish looks OK.

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                    • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                      THe Spanish looks OK.

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                      Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                      Thanks, Walt. /ravi

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                      • T tgrt

                        I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        Agreed.  I don't rely on it for translating app resources, hence my original post.  It serves its purpose when translating web pages or chunks of text when you want to get the gist of what's being said. /ravi

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                          English French German Italian Spanish


                          Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                          Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                          Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                          Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                          /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                          You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

                          "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

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                          • M Manfred Rudolf Bihy

                            You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

                            "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                            Ron White, Comedian

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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                            Thanks! /ravi

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                            • G Garth J Lancaster

                              I think the biggest issue Ravi is how you are going to use some of these for example, 'tomorrow' - in French if wanted to say 'tomorrow' as Im talking to someone and I know I'll be back and see them tomorrow, I'd simply say 'à demain', Italian I'd simply say 'a domani' In all of the cases Google has given you, they have given you '(the) tomorrow' - but, Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee, so hopefully Carlo Pallini, Maximillien etc will be able to help you more (and you might want to indicate in your question how/where you're using the words ie context) 'g'

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                              Paul M Watt
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                              Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                              Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee,

                              Yeah, but do you know how to order coffee tommorrow or tomorrow night in those languages ;)

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                                Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                                Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee,

                                Yeah, but do you know how to order coffee tommorrow or tomorrow night in those languages ;)

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                                Garth J Lancaster
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                                yuck - it'd be cold by that time !!! :-) so I'd stick with maintenant, ora, jetzt & ahora ;P

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                                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                  Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                                  English French German Italian Spanish


                                  Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                                  Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                                  Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                                  Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                                  /ravi

                                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  Well, I don't trust Google translate at all, to many funny results for that. But even if it's useless for this case I think I should tip you off on my way to find translations for more technical cases. I simply look up what I want to translate in Wikipedia and look for the article in other languages, et voila.

                                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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