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  • L Lost User

    Well, the Spanish translations are almost all correct except for the third one. Tomorrow is just "Mañana", drop the article "La". "La mañana" would translate to English as "the morning". Good luck! -Edit- Also, "tomorrow night" could vary if it is used as an adverbial phrase instead of a noun phrase. It could be "mañana en la noche", or "mañana por la noche". "La noche de mañana" is a noun phrase.

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    Ravi Bhavnani
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    Thanks.  They will be used as noun forms (see my reply to Garth). /ravi

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    • D dandy72

      Leandro Taset wrote:

      Tomorrow is just "Mañana", drop the article "La".

      It did the same thing with French: I don't know why it decided to use "le demain" instead of just "demain".

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      Thanks. /ravi

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      • R Ravi Bhavnani

        Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

        English French German Italian Spanish


        Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
        Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
        Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
        Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

        /ravi

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        Mark_Wallace
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        Mostly, delete all instances of "le", "la", "der", and "gli", and you're close enough (either that or put "the" in front of the English versions). Two of the Italian ones are seriously wrong, though; particularly "le stasera", which is wrong for two reasons: 1. "Stasera" is feminine, so it should be "la", except that: 2. "Stasera" is an elided form of "questa sera", so saying "la stasera" is like saying "the this evening". "La sera" is "the evening". With "domani", "gli" indicates that it's plural, so it's like saying "all tomorrows"/"the future"; "tomorrow" is just "domani". And unless you spent time with an Italian speaker practicing how to say "gli", it's unlikely that any Italian would understand you saying it, anyway -- the 'g' is sort-of silent (but you have to kinda roll the middle/back of your tongue), and it ends with a "yi" sound, rather than an "i" sound (the pronunciation is easy to demonstrate, but tricky to write down).

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        • R Ravi Bhavnani

          Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

          Today: Shepherd's Pie
          Tonight: Lasagna
          Tomorrow: Pizza
          Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
          

          /ravi

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Today: Pizza
          Tonight: Pizza
          Tomorrow: Pizza
          Tomorrow night: Pizza

          FTFY.

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            Mostly, delete all instances of "le", "la", "der", and "gli", and you're close enough (either that or put "the" in front of the English versions). Two of the Italian ones are seriously wrong, though; particularly "le stasera", which is wrong for two reasons: 1. "Stasera" is feminine, so it should be "la", except that: 2. "Stasera" is an elided form of "questa sera", so saying "la stasera" is like saying "the this evening". "La sera" is "the evening". With "domani", "gli" indicates that it's plural, so it's like saying "all tomorrows"/"the future"; "tomorrow" is just "domani". And unless you spent time with an Italian speaker practicing how to say "gli", it's unlikely that any Italian would understand you saying it, anyway -- the 'g' is sort-of silent (but you have to kinda roll the middle/back of your tongue), and it ends with a "yi" sound, rather than an "i" sound (the pronunciation is easy to demonstrate, but tricky to write down).

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            Ravi Bhavnani
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            Thanks, Mark! /ravi

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            • R Ravi Bhavnani

              Good point.  They will be used as labels in their noun form, viz:

              Today: Shepherd's Pie
              Tonight: Lasagna
              Tomorrow: Pizza
              Tomorrow night: Chicken Casserole
              

              /ravi

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              Lost User
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              In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

              Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
              In the worst way that could be possible!

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                Today: Pizza
                Tonight: Pizza
                Tomorrow: Pizza
                Tomorrow night: Pizza

                FTFY.

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                Ravi Bhavnani
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                I'm making (i.e. boiling) pasta tonight!  With spicy garlicky pasta sauce and Indian style ground beef. /ravi

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                • L Lost User

                  In that case, use "Mañana en la noche" as the translation for "tomorrow night" in Spanish. It is a better fit, according to the intended use in this particular example.

                  Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                  In the worst way that could be possible!

                  –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  Thank you! /ravi

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                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                    Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                    English French German Italian Spanish


                    Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                    Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                    Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                    Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                    /ravi

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                    tgrt
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                    I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                      Thank you! /ravi

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                      Lost User
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                      :thumbsup:

                      Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
                      In the worst way that could be possible!

                      –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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                      • R Ravi Bhavnani

                        Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                        English French German Italian Spanish


                        Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                        Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                        Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                        Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                        /ravi

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                        Dr Walt Fair PE
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                        THe Spanish looks OK.

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                        • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                          THe Spanish looks OK.

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                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                          Thanks, Walt. /ravi

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                          • T tgrt

                            I personally wouldn't trust Google Translate. I've found it wrong more times then not. It can be nice for getting context or enough of a translation to understand what is being said. I would never use it for anything official. Your mileage may vary.

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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                            Agreed.  I don't rely on it for translating app resources, hence my original post.  It serves its purpose when translating web pages or chunks of text when you want to get the gist of what's being said. /ravi

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                            • R Ravi Bhavnani

                              Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                              English French German Italian Spanish


                              Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                              Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                              Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                              Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                              /ravi

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                              Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                              You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

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                              • M Manfred Rudolf Bihy

                                You need to drop the article in the german translation of tomorrow. If it's used with the article the meaning becomes morning. Cheers!

                                "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

                                Ron White, Comedian

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                                Ravi Bhavnani
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                                Thanks! /ravi

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                                • G Garth J Lancaster

                                  I think the biggest issue Ravi is how you are going to use some of these for example, 'tomorrow' - in French if wanted to say 'tomorrow' as Im talking to someone and I know I'll be back and see them tomorrow, I'd simply say 'à demain', Italian I'd simply say 'a domani' In all of the cases Google has given you, they have given you '(the) tomorrow' - but, Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee, so hopefully Carlo Pallini, Maximillien etc will be able to help you more (and you might want to indicate in your question how/where you're using the words ie context) 'g'

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                                  Paul M Watt
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                                  Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                                  Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee,

                                  Yeah, but do you know how to order coffee tommorrow or tomorrow night in those languages ;)

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                                  • P Paul M Watt

                                    Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                                    Im not a native speaker, I can get by in French, Italian, German, and know enough Spanish to order a coffee,

                                    Yeah, but do you know how to order coffee tommorrow or tomorrow night in those languages ;)

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                                    Garth J Lancaster
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                                    yuck - it'd be cold by that time !!! :-) so I'd stick with maintenant, ora, jetzt & ahora ;P

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                                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                      Google Translate tells me these are the equivalents for my English phrases (labels) in French, German, Italian and Spanish.  While I generally trust Google, I thought it would be prudent to run the translations by native speakers.  Any corrections (including casing) and comments are appreciated.  Thanks!

                                      English French German Italian Spanish


                                      Today Aujourd'hui Heute Oggi Hoy
                                      Tonight Cette nuit Heute Abend Le stasera Esta noche
                                      Tomorrow Le demain Der Morgen Gli domani La mañana
                                      Tomorrow night Demain soir Morgen Abend Domani sera La noche de mañana

                                      /ravi

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      Well, I don't trust Google translate at all, to many funny results for that. But even if it's useless for this case I think I should tip you off on my way to find translations for more technical cases. I simply look up what I want to translate in Wikipedia and look for the article in other languages, et voila.

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