Just a spat between Illion on one side and Rob Graham & Oakman on another. The latter have had enough and they simply said we're not moderating no more, this forum has gone to the shits because of the two trolls and Oakman was wondering if it would be worthwhile to setup a new forum/website named the Soap Box where people can debate freely with the absence of link monkeys and trolls. That's it in a nutshell. If the post was helpful, please vote! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

And you've certainly never said anything remotely resembling an answer.

Christian Graus wrote: I'll be in Minnesota for the first time in a month or so. So, anything I need to know ? Jesse "The Body" Ventura, he's the Govenor (or was) and was also the guy in The Predator who was always chewing tobacco and had the minigun. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

Oakman wrote: Best bet is to assume the opposite of what he say is factual. LOL Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Please read this[^] if you don't like the answer I gave to your question. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums.

Welcome brother. We hope the re-education experience is a pleasant one.

Oakman wrote: I thought you were going to let us in on what you were drinking tonight. Plan on meeting up with him for a night out are you? :laugh: You two going to get a motel room and play Rush Limbal to right-wing radio talk shows? Wake Up Call[^]

Fisticuffs wrote: Rush! Is! Divisive! No, he simply disagrees with you and says so. You simply cannot contend with that except by being divisive, than blaiming that divisiveness of those you oppose. Because, really, at the end of the day, thats all you've got. Thats all you've ever had. Your arguments cannot stand on their own merit. And if it wasn't the dreaded 'divisive' label, it would be the 'fear monger' label or the 'extremist' label. Or some other equally inane clap trap. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Ilíon wrote: 'Kyle' (whoever that is; I've never been totally sure on that point) By my understanding, he's a troll who posted in the lounge for a while. Insignificant overall (but then, very few people are) It's probably someone who's lurked around for a long time and decided that he doesn't like you. Either that or someone testing to see how the loss of anonymity affects people's behaviour on the Internet

Richard A. Abbott wrote: keeping up with what the voting public want And what does the voting public want? A voting public that wants socialism and hedonism should have it. But there should also be an alternative that once the consequencies of socialism and hedonism become ever more obvious to ever more people, is also available for them to vote for. What you are really arguing for is the abandonment of those alternatives so that the only possible alternative is ever more socialism and hedonism. Well, sorry, but you aren't going to get it. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Brady Kelly wrote: That's easier to say on New York, far from the Mexican border. Lots of illegals in New York City. They do the jobs white folks and black folks won't do - like vote for Bloomberg. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

A degree in biology? And you are now a Web Developer? Sorry, I don't think this counts as expertise...

Le Centriste wrote: who is Oily? Oily[^] Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read

Oakman wrote: Starbucks makes such lousy coffee. But Nazi Girl works there now and promised to show him her swastika again if he'd come in and by her coffee. :laugh: "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke I'm a proud denizen of the Real Soapbox[^] ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!

"The figurine, unearthed in September 2008 in Hohle Fels Cave in southwestern Germany" Its funny, as soon as I saw the ponderous brests and massive thighs I thouhght she looked like German woman... Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

By supporting it? Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

John Carson wrote: 1. It is one of two problems. The other problem is insolvent banks. If the banks are insolvent then let them go down. Banks need to operate within specified boundaries to prevent them from becoming insolvent. John Carson wrote: 2. Hiring government workers gives them jobs and an income, which they spend on goods and services. There are two things wrong about this. More government workers is a sign of increased government and government spending. Increased government and spending is not the way to speed up the restructuring process of the economy. The economy is like the ecosystem in many ways, one thing you cannot do is somehow 'fix' the economy. The basic demand for money will force people to build new connections in the money supply lines. If they have a direct supply line from the government then that is how it will restructure which is not good.

Mike Gaskey wrote: feel the same regarding Palin Keep one egg out of the basket. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

Most of it. The amphibious fleet probably spent 2/3 of its time cruising the South China sea in those days, and in between we were picking up astronauts and other short missions. The New Orleans got the lion share because our two sister ships, the Okinawa and the Iwo Jima, were often unable to get underway. If you've seen the footage of the helicopter being pushed over the side of the ship as Saigon was falling, that was (if memory serves) the Okinawa, which had only just relieved us the week before after about a 3 month delay. Nowadays the deployments are even longer, especially for the big ships. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Stan Shannon wrote: I promise to do that if you ever actually post a fact. I refuse to accept your warm and fuzzy beliefs because they contradict my cold, sharp-edged facts Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin

Oakman wrote: According to Bishop Usher, yes. It's just a matter of counting the begats between Adama and Yeshua. I presume folks with more time on their hands than I have (Troy, maybe?) have checked his math. Maybe, but if you really think about it all, science has proven that the universe came into existence in a moment of creation, and mankind appears mysteriously in a state of innocence in an isolated garden. Sounds pretty damn close to what some bronze age middle eastern sheep herder supposedly pulled out of his ass 3000 years ago. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.