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  • C Christopher Duncan

    Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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    Dan Mos
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    I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

    I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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      Dan Neely
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      Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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      • D Dan Mos

        I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

        I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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        Dalek Dave
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        The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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        • C Christopher Duncan

          Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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          Simon P Stevens
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          I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

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          • D Dan Neely

            Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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            Dalek Dave
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            Mechanical Systems - Cogs and Spanners.

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            • D Dalek Dave

              The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              Dan Mos
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              One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

              I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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              • D Dan Mos

                I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

                I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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                Christopher Duncan
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                Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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                • D Dan Neely

                  Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

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                  • S Simon P Stevens

                    I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Good points.

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                    • D Dan Mos

                      One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

                      I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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                      I just used to page the oracle

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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                        Rhuros
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                        you sound as if you met her personally... or were you having a bit of a 300 moment....

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          AFAIK, desktop Java on Linux is not a significant dev platform at all. On the other hand, server-side Java ("Java EE") is huge.

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

                            Christopher Duncan
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                            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                            Andy Brummer
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                            Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

                            Curvature of the Mind

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                            • A Andy Brummer

                              Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

                              Curvature of the Mind

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                              Jim Crafton
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                              Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                              • C Christopher Duncan

                                Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

                                That explains why you did not get a chance to fix the links in your sig.

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                                • C Christopher Duncan

                                  Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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                                  Lost User
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                                  How about this one: "Anywhere": "cross platform" / C that does not compile on windows

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                                  • J Jim Crafton

                                    Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                                    a *really* vocal following

                                    Yes, that is more accurate.

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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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                                      ChandraRam
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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                      Yes!

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                                        Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

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                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                        I read somewhere that the overwhelming majority of web work is carried over from the early days of the web with the bulk being done with C/C++ on CGI/FastCGI and Perl. Java on the web is a relative upstart and so are all the other usual suspects.

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                                        • C ChandraRam

                                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                          Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                          Yes!

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                                          Oh, I'll pray for you tonight.

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