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  • C Christopher Duncan

    Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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    Dan Neely
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    Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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      I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

      I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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      Dalek Dave
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      The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

        Christopher Duncan
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        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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        Simon P Stevens
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        I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

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          Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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          Dalek Dave
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          Mechanical Systems - Cogs and Spanners.

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            The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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            Dan Mos
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            One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

            I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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              I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

              I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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              Christopher Duncan
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              Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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                Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                Christopher Duncan
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                Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

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                • S Simon P Stevens

                  I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Good points.

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                    One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

                    I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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                    Lost User
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                    I just used to page the oracle

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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                      Rhuros
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                      you sound as if you met her personally... or were you having a bit of a 300 moment....

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                      • C Christopher Duncan

                        Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                        AFAIK, desktop Java on Linux is not a significant dev platform at all. On the other hand, server-side Java ("Java EE") is huge.

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

                          Christopher Duncan
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                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                          Andy Brummer
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                          Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

                          Curvature of the Mind

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                            Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

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                            Jim Crafton
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                            Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                            • C Christopher Duncan

                              Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

                              Christopher Duncan
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                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                              Lost User
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                              How about this one: "Anywhere": "cross platform" / C that does not compile on windows

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                              • C Christopher Duncan

                                Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

                                That explains why you did not get a chance to fix the links in your sig.

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                                  Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                                  a *really* vocal following

                                  Yes, that is more accurate.

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                                  • C Christopher Duncan

                                    Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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                                    ChandraRam
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                                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                    Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                    Yes!

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                                      Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                      I read somewhere that the overwhelming majority of web work is carried over from the early days of the web with the bulk being done with C/C++ on CGI/FastCGI and Perl. Java on the web is a relative upstart and so are all the other usual suspects.

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                                      • C ChandraRam

                                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                        Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                        Yes!

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                                        Rage
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                                        Oh, I'll pray for you tonight.

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                                          Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                          Andy Brummer
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                                          There are a few web apps that I've had to use which were written on rails so my experience probably doesn't reflect the entire market.

                                          Curvature of the Mind

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