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  • C Christopher Duncan

    Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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    Simon P Stevens
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    I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

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      Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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      Mechanical Systems - Cogs and Spanners.

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      • D Dalek Dave

        The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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        Dan Mos
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        One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

        I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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          I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

          I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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          Christopher Duncan
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          Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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            Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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            Christopher Duncan
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            Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

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              I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

              Simon

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              Christopher Duncan
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              Good points.

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              • D Dan Mos

                One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

                I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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                Lost User
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                I just used to page the oracle

                Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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                  Rhuros
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                  you sound as if you met her personally... or were you having a bit of a 300 moment....

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    AFAIK, desktop Java on Linux is not a significant dev platform at all. On the other hand, server-side Java ("Java EE") is huge.

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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                      Andy Brummer
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                      Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

                      Curvature of the Mind

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                      • A Andy Brummer

                        Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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                          Lost User
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                          How about this one: "Anywhere": "cross platform" / C that does not compile on windows

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            Christopher Duncan wrote:

                            I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

                            That explains why you did not get a chance to fix the links in your sig.

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                              Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              Jim Crafton wrote:

                              a *really* vocal following

                              Yes, that is more accurate.

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                              • C Christopher Duncan

                                Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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                                ChandraRam
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                                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                Yes!

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                                  Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                  I read somewhere that the overwhelming majority of web work is carried over from the early days of the web with the bulk being done with C/C++ on CGI/FastCGI and Perl. Java on the web is a relative upstart and so are all the other usual suspects.

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                                  • C ChandraRam

                                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                    Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                    Yes!

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                                    Rage
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                                      Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

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                                      Andy Brummer
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                                      There are a few web apps that I've had to use which were written on rails so my experience probably doesn't reflect the entire market.

                                      Curvature of the Mind

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                                      • C ChandraRam

                                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                        Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                        Yes!

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                                        Christopher Duncan
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                                        Well, then - it goes on the list! :)

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                                        • C Christopher Duncan

                                          Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                          Christopher Duncan
                                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                                          Yayozama
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                                          I do. I'm working with Builder C++ 6.0 (with parts of Delphi) Yersterday I felt like I was working with stones and shells...

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