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  • D Dan Mos

    I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

    I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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    Dalek Dave
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    The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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      Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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      Simon P Stevens
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      I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

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      • D Dan Neely

        Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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        Dalek Dave
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        Mechanical Systems - Cogs and Spanners.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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          Dan Mos
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          One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

          I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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          • D Dan Mos

            I bet that the Athens Oracle would say, yeah, you missed a big player. :-O

            I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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            Christopher Duncan
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            Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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            • D Dan Neely

              Embedded systems. C/C++/etc Non-web server applications. C/C++/COBOL/stone knives and bearskins Supercomputing C/C++/Fortran

              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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              Christopher Duncan
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              Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

              Christopher Duncan
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              • S Simon P Stevens

                I think if you are listing form factors for want of a better word, then to me "cloud" is something different from "web". I've seen "desktop" apps that utilise the "cloud". Web is websites/apps. Cloud is stuff running on scalable application frameworks like EC2/Azure/AppEngine. Also, I think you missed embedded. It may not be as visible, but there are a huge amount of devices that don't run a major OS and are just coded for directly in c (or even with tools like the .net micro framework).

                Simon

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                Christopher Duncan
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                Good points.

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                • D Dan Mos

                  One of them. There were many "oracles" throughout history. My preferred one was the Athens one.

                  I used to think.... Finally I realized it's no good.

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                  Lost User
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                  I just used to page the oracle

                  Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    The Oracle was at Delphi! This is about 100 mile from Athens. Near Mount Parnassas. It was the upswelling gases that gave the Oracle her oddness.

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                    Rhuros
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                    you sound as if you met her personally... or were you having a bit of a 300 moment....

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

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                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                      AFAIK, desktop Java on Linux is not a significant dev platform at all. On the other hand, server-side Java ("Java EE") is huge.

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                      • C Christopher Duncan

                        Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

                        Christopher Duncan
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                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                        Andy Brummer
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                        Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

                        Curvature of the Mind

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                        • A Andy Brummer

                          Also RoR is pretty big for the web.

                          Curvature of the Mind

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                          Jim Crafton
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                          Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            Seems to me like these days, software development environments can be split into these general camps: Desktop: Microsoft Linux / Java Apple / Objective C Web: Microsoft Adobe Flash Javascript / cloud (Google, Amazon, etc.) PHP / MySql Mobile gizmos: Apple / Objective C Android / Java Microsoft / .NET Am I missing any significant religions, or does this pretty much sum it up?

                            Christopher Duncan
                            www.PracticalUSA.com
                            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                            Copywriting Services

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                            Lost User
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                            How about this one: "Anywhere": "cross platform" / C that does not compile on windows

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                            • C Christopher Duncan

                              Wouldn't that be Kobol? Sorry. I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              I've been watching Battlestar Galacta lately...

                              That explains why you did not get a chance to fix the links in your sig.

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                                Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                Jim Crafton wrote:

                                a *really* vocal following

                                Yes, that is more accurate.

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                                • C Christopher Duncan

                                  Well, Oracle is a db. Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

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                                  ChandraRam
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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                  Yes!

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                                    Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                    I read somewhere that the overwhelming majority of web work is carried over from the early days of the web with the bulk being done with C/C++ on CGI/FastCGI and Perl. Java on the web is a relative upstart and so are all the other usual suspects.

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                                    • C ChandraRam

                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                      Yes!

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                                      Rage
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                                      Oh, I'll pray for you tonight.

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                                        Is it, or does it just have a *really* vocal following? Like Chris, I was under the impression that most web stuff was done with either PHP, Microsoft's tech-du-jour.Net, some Java, and a sprinkling of python, Ruby, etc.

                                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                                        Andy Brummer
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                                        There are a few web apps that I've had to use which were written on rails so my experience probably doesn't reflect the entire market.

                                        Curvature of the Mind

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                                        • C ChandraRam

                                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                          Are people still doing desktop dev in Delphi?

                                          Yes!

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                                          Christopher Duncan
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                                          Well, then - it goes on the list! :)

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