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  • D Dalek Dave

    My, what a small minded race the humans are. Only three dimensions? Pfft...Do you not own a clock?

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    Pete OHanlon
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    Indeed I do, but you may note that I clearly stated "in 3D". By default, Silverlight 3D exists in 4D.

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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      there are a lot more than three dimensions

      Mathematically, yes...in reality, it remains to be proved.

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      Dalek Dave
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      Time? Or is that just a theory?

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Time? Or is that just a theory?

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        hairy_hats
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        That's one more. You said "a lot more". :)

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        • H hairy_hats

          That's one more. You said "a lot more". :)

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          Dalek Dave
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          String Theory[^] And even Uncertainty is uncertain[^]. It depends on more dimensions than can be explained at the moment.

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          • D Dalek Dave

            String Theory[^] And even Uncertainty is uncertain[^]. It depends on more dimensions than can be explained at the moment.

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            hairy_hats
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            I know of String Theory, and how it has failed to produce a single concrete prediction. Give any mathematical model enough degrees of freedom and you can make it look like anything. I'm not convinced it is the answer.

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            • D Dalek Dave

              There is a point in time when it is not there. There is a point in time when it is. Then there is a another point in time when it ceases. If you wish to talk maths then please continue, but be aware that there are a lot more than three dimensions, and that the temporal and hyperspatial ones can do some odd things. Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult, and what about projections of future positions of known points, a clock is useful there!

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              soap brain
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult

              You're joking, right? V = s4.

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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                Have you ever worked out the volume of a tesseract (aka a Hypercube)? Very difficult

                You're joking, right? V = s4.

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                Dalek Dave
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                V = s4? Are you sure? Rotating Hypercube[^], not easy is it? Some information[^]. Want to try again?

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  V = s4? Are you sure? Rotating Hypercube[^], not easy is it? Some information[^]. Want to try again?

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                  soap brain
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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Are you sure?

                  Yes.

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Want to try again?

                  OK. A tesseract is a cube extruded along the w-axis a distance of s. Hence, V = s4.

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                  • S soap brain

                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    Are you sure?

                    Yes.

                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    Want to try again?

                    OK. A tesseract is a cube extruded along the w-axis a distance of s. Hence, V = s4.

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      Indeed I do, but you may note that I clearly stated "in 3D". By default, Silverlight 3D exists in 4D.

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.

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                      • W wout de zeeuw

                        Can't draw a point in Silverlight 5 3D. :wtf: Feels like going back in time.

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                        Keith Barrow
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                        A serious question: Isn't moving pixel sized triangles quicker with modern GPUs anyway? I assumed it was, still a PITA though.

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                        • W wout de zeeuw

                          Can't draw a point in Silverlight 5 3D. :wtf: Feels like going back in time.

                          Wout

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          So you need a point with the circular aspect excluded. i.e. :beer:

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                            soap brain
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting.

                            You mean its hyper-surface area.

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside.

                            I don't even know what that means. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=tesseract+volume[^]

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              Time? Or is that just a theory?

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                              Lost User
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                              As a dimension, yes, it is a theory.

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                You are falling into the trap that I fell into. That is it's volume in n Dimensional space. To work out it's volume in n-1 dimensional space is where it gets interesting. The volume then rather different, it is larger on the inside than the outside. Exterior volume is only the same as in n-1 space, whereas the internal volume is the n analogue. However the internal volume cannot be accessed from an n dimensional viewpoint.

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                                Lost User
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                                Your talking bollocks again Dave.

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                                • K Keith Barrow

                                  A serious question: Isn't moving pixel sized triangles quicker with modern GPUs anyway? I assumed it was, still a PITA though.

                                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                                  -Or-
                                  A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                                  wout de zeeuw
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                                  Maybe, I still have to look into how to draw a pixel sized triangle that remains pixel sized regardless of how much the user zooms in/out. In OpenGL/DirectX 9 this used to be quite easy, but now you have to get into vertex shaders, texture mapping and such just to draw a dot. So instead of just doing a few lines of code and be done with it, now you have to research for a day how to draw a dot.

                                  Wout

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                                  • K Keith Barrow

                                    He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.

                                    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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                                    Lost User
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                                    Khaaaaaaaan!

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