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fat_boy wrote: And I answered that by adding your 30% to give 200-250ppm, which still only gets us to around 700ppm tops. As I keep saying, that's still a simplification. I just mentioned and estimated one more factor, and by the way, you miscalculated that completely. Unless I typed it up wrong before (Semi-busy morning, so only have a few minutes to post at the moment)... Something like 1/3rd of our output is absorbed by the oceans, and 1/3rd by the biosphere. If the oceans stop absorbing, then we're not increasing our output by 30%... We're doubling it. We're going from 1/3rd in the atmosphere to 2/3 in the atmosphere. But again, feedback cycles and other factors will complicate it much more, and I don't know enough to guess at the actual numbers those will involve. Remind me to check out those links later, when I have some more time. EDIT: Ok, have a little more time now to check out those links... I'm not going to go through and try to process everything in that PDF, but the abstract is interesting. If it turns out to be correct, well, that would be a good thing. As for the second... The guy's basically saying that we can't do anything about CO2 emissions, so we might as well just ignore them. Obviously the brief article is just a summary, but that seems a pretty simplistic argument. True, we can't cut our emissions down to zero. No one in their right mind would believe that to be a possibility, at least in the foreseeable future. But IF it's proven that our CO2 emissions are harmful, then even cutting them by 25% would give us 33% more time to figure out a better solution. We could even tackle the problem from the other side, using CO2 scrubbers to REMOVE some of it from the atmosphere, if that proves to be necessary. Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) modified on Thursday, July 8, 2010 9:40 AM

I knew I should of put the joke icon on my post ;) Two heads are better than one.

It's all part of the Tri-Lateral Commission's plan to exterminate undesirable contributors to the gene pool. Wait 'till you get the earthquake they have scheduled; Long Island is floating on a limestone cave, now that you've pumped all the water out of the ground. All is proceeding according to schedule, so sit back and enjoy the ride. :) "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

CaptainSeeSharp wrote: With the proper adjustments to your attitude and your perspective, you will not be so quick to dismiss infowars and prisonplanet. Take me to Room 101 immediately, I can't wait to become a $5 an hour burger flipper. CaptainSeeSharp wrote: You are nitpicking and obsessing over petty technicalities Lies are petty technicalities? Hello, Adolf: or are you Mao, or Stalin? CaptainSeeSharp wrote: that you will find in any newspaper Which is why I do not read newspapers. CaptainSeeSharp wrote: You are unable to accept that there are people out there that are society wreckers. Not at all. I am well aware of them, I watch them at work daily. CaptainSeeSharp wrote: It must be terrible to have such a limited mind. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Littlest Captain, you are so funny, pathetic, but entertaining. BTW If you truly wish to be taken seriously: As you now claim to have read his book, can you tell me which 'genocidal' option Holdren chose? And Rockefeller. What did you read of his writing? Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

Jefferson was the one to create his own version of the Bible. While all of the founders were deists in some respect or another, I don't believe any of them were outright Christians, save Washington. Josh Davis This is what plays in my head when I finish projects.

it's all in your imagination, is normal to have those variances in the room temp, just wait a few months and it will drop I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

My enemy territory name was once "an innocent bystander". Lots of messages would therefore appear on peoples' screens such as: "You airstriked an innocent bystander" "You sniped an innocnet bystander" "You were blown up by an innocent bystander's panzerfaust" Good times although people asked me to change it because afte a while they felt really bad at the mental image.

I'll find it when I can be bothered :-D It was from a PJ O'Rourke book, but I haven't got it here. TBH it might not have been Palo Alto, it could have been one of the other small towns. Will Beverley Hills do? Density of 2,298/km2 against Bangladesh's 1,099/km2, who cares it's only facts :-D Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

But do you reckon is the same thing over and over and over again? the same as CSS and DD and maybe? I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

There is no way to compare two presidents that lived in different times, George Washington accomplished a lot of things during his time, we can't tell if all the things he did were good or bad to the american people, only people on those times can tell it, now he's just part of history, Obama, well, time will tell if he becomes a good president or a hated one, so far I think he has done a lot of things, but only time will tell if those things really were good for the american people or something that worsened things around. If you want to compare something more feasable, how about George W Bush vs Barack Hussein Obama, and at least let Obama finish his first 4 years, but you can start doing W's list, good and bad things, and remember, don't blame on Obama the world crisis, was W's fault, Obama just received it as part of the package from the previous president and so far things seems to be getting better I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

No, breaking the the FoI act is criminal aparently. Jojnes only got off due toi a technicality, now being changed. That he later 'lost possesion of' or 'had stolen' emails that pertained to the breaking of the FoI act could be considered a non criminal act in that it provided proof of his criminal act. Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Oh, I believe there is CH4 there, trapped in ice, and that it is a usable gas (for burning), and that it is a GH gas. Which all of the links you provide state. However, that it is serious is refuted by the fact that the temperatures in the arctic were warmer in the 1940s than today. As evinced by my previous post. Dont forget too that CH4 is unstable, it oxidises rapidly, in fact explosively. It life cycle is relatively short. Dont forget too that cows produce many times in order of magnitude the CH4 that might be released from melting tundra. But sI suppose you think this source of CH4 is 'natural' and thus OK? Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

I'm quite sure they will say so :) Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

Leave the poor guy alone, it's not his fault to believe things that can't be supported by straight facts, sometimes happens to anyone, who didn't believe in UFO's before? we even thought to see one or two, didn't you? I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

I am now a convert :laugh: As barmey as a sack of badgers

here is a blank man point award please fill in the blanks with a ball point pen :rolleyes: As barmey as a sack of badgers

Fisticuffs wrote: My intent wasn't to lecture on the multitude of risk factors and etiologies for a quite complex disease, but rather to address the popular misconception that too much sugar causes it. I know you weren't, I'm just still pissed all these years later to have it. I know a bucketload of people with far greater weights and body fat percentages than mine and not a hint of the fucking thing. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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WERE DOOMED!! As barmey as a sack of badgers

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